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Diogenes
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« on: October 07, 2009, 01:30:02 PM »

There now appears to be a strong possibility that this site will vanish due to lack of interest and that, to me, will be a sad day.
 Is the “ purpose “ of the site to lofty?
 Has the site owner made demands that have caused people to turn away?
 Is it me? Nah! How could it be I’m just one of the common many with no particular skills …. Wait a minute! It is me O-M-G!!!
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God's Warning: "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge; I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children."  Hos 4: 6
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"When I tell the truth, it is not for the sake of convincing those who do not know it, but for the sake of defending those that do."
William Blake
 
“We do not have to visit a madhouse to find disordered minds; our planet is the mental institution of the universe.” Goethe'

est cum ius nostrum ignoramus - It is ignorance of the law when we do not know our own rights ...

Yup The same guy as the last time

"Original thought requires that you first accept that most opinions are based on ignorance."
Freyja
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« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2009, 05:37:30 PM »

I joined the site as a sort of favour to the site owner which I seem to gather has been the case for most of the previous regular users.

I continued to use the site in the first place because articles and links were constantly posted and debated and the opinions of the half a dozen + people who were regularly signing in and commenting were varied, intelligent and fresh.

Now, with the owners attentions waning, so have the masses (slight hyperbole) and, in turn, so have mine. At any given point there are media articles, forums, live chats, etc. all creating the buzz this site once did, ten-fold and being a product of todays society I have a short attention span and my loyalties drift easily ;).

I think that this site has a noble purpose and hope that one day it will thrive, but I think that the only potential for that is with a more dedicated and better planned execution and launch, with perhaps a few different individual in charge of recruiting, moderating and stimulating conversation. I'll be back again when that day arrives.

And I doubt very much that it was you Dio. Mostly I found your arguments well thought and written and any considerably long posts or topics of little interest to me I simply passed over (again, short attention span).

Freyja



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Diogenes
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« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2009, 07:53:55 PM »

 Glad to see you back if only to say goodbye
 I try to keep it interesting and fresh but no easy job
 I truely enjoyed your being here and am saddened to see you go
 
Now about that short attention span... You must be hell on Boyfriends  :D
  drop in occassionaly and perhaps the pair of us might stimulate others
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God's Warning: "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge; I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children."  Hos 4: 6
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"When I tell the truth, it is not for the sake of convincing those who do not know it, but for the sake of defending those that do."
William Blake
 
“We do not have to visit a madhouse to find disordered minds; our planet is the mental institution of the universe.” Goethe'

est cum ius nostrum ignoramus - It is ignorance of the law when we do not know our own rights ...

Yup The same guy as the last time

"Original thought requires that you first accept that most opinions are based on ignorance."
Diogenes
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Posts: 1454


« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2009, 07:58:52 PM »

Not unkindly, I though of Freyja’s comment, (Again, Short attention span.) as I read this . It may no be that computer games, TV, movies and pop music is the cause of her self proclaimed attention span, and from what I saw in her contribution there certainly is no brain damage.   We do live in a world of nano second sound bytes and ever quickening flickerings (my word) of info where the smell of rose or coffee, lingers not.

I suppose a case could be made for the quickness of mind but Karin Friedmann seems to disagree.
 
 


Protecting Our Children In
A World Gone Mad
By Karin Friedemann
11-1-9
 
 
When I spent a year teaching 6-8 grade students in Detroit, Michigan, I had hoped that with my high ideals, I could influence the children to become thinking citizens, perhaps even sway them towards a Godly life. But I found a tragic situation. American children of today are seriously brain damaged from computer games, TV, movies and pop music.
 
They have an attention span no longer than a commercial and if something is not flashing lights and making bleeping noises they have no interest in it. They have a huge problem translating their thoughts into written words and they have a hard time sitting still. They really require-and want-adults to manage their behaviour.
Concerning sex education, it was painfully clear that there was nothing I could do for these kids, except maybe an occasional isolated miracle. How do you convince a girl not to date boys when her own mother goes out on dates? You and I know that she is too young to think about such things, but the fact is, by 6th grade these children's minds are set into the pattern created by the mass media. It made me realise that you really have to focus on protecting your kids from a very young age and arm them with knowledge.
 
The religious kids, if they are going to stay clean and innocent, they have to have made that choice well before 6th grade. Parents need to realise that the kids are going to learn everything about the facts of life-if not from school then from the songs playing in the supermarket-so we have to protect them.
 
We have to tell them that they are persons of value who deserve to be respected and cherished and to enjoy happy and healthy relationships. Many children never hear these words from their parents so they seek affection and positive encouragement elsewhere.
 
Most kids chase boyfriends or girlfriends because the media tells them this is how you find happiness. Parents really need to walk the middle line
between saying too much and not saying enough.
 
Young kids don't need the "details" of how babies are made but they do need to be told at a young age, for example, which parts of their body are off limits, even to family members, and the child should be made to promise to report any violations even if done in jest.
 
Since they are giggling about boys as early as first grade, girls need to be advised well in advance that their lives will be miserable if they fall in love with boys before they are old enough to
get married.
 
They need to know the rules of clothing. They need to be instructed never to be alone in a room with a boy. Their brother should go with them if they are visiting the friends or cousins in the neighbourhood. You really can't be under-prepared.
 
Our children should be made to understand why physical proximity to the opposite gender and sex before marriage is out of the question. If they have not gotten any good advice by age eleven, he or she may easily get lost. Whatever you tell your kids, it has to make sense within the context of the way that their peers explain the world.
 
American children have enough knowledge about how babies are made and how to prevent them, but they are very protected from knowing how babies come out.
 
I believe that in families where the mother gives birth at home and the children are there to emotionally support her and know what women go through, these children will probably have a healthier attitude and reverence for their bodies and for life itself and will be less likely to make light-hearted decisions.
 
Even many religious men, who were chaste until marriage, still lack the appropriate respect and reverence for the extreme sacrifice that a woman makes when she obeys her husband.
 
The good news is that there seem to be more and more kids in high schools and colleges that choose to be chaste and who give each other moral support, and I have to assume it's because their parents talked to them about when sex is appropriate.
 
Looking at online teen discussions it seems clear that there is a group of kids who have zero self esteem and are actively striving to crash their lives because they have no guidance other than the desire to be "cool" - while there is another group of kids who are actively striving to be responsible.
 
When I was a kid there were no kids striving to be responsible in matters
of chastity.
 
If anyone was religiously motivated they would be treated like a mentally ill person and no one would be
their friend.
 
America is becoming better in many ways. At least, there are better choices available. As parents we have to make sure our children are aware of the choices we hope our kids will make, to balance the information they are getting from society about the choices that corporate military consumer culture hopes they make.
 
Karin Friedemann is a Boston-based writer on Middle East affairs and US politics. She is Director of the Division on Muslim Civil Rights and Liberties for the National Association of Muslim American Women. Joachim Martillo contributed to this article
 
http://www.khaleejtimes.com/displayarticle.asp?xfile=data/opinion/
2009/November/opinion_November1.xml&section=opinion&col=

 

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God's Warning: "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge; I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children."  Hos 4: 6
________________________________________


"When I tell the truth, it is not for the sake of convincing those who do not know it, but for the sake of defending those that do."
William Blake
 
“We do not have to visit a madhouse to find disordered minds; our planet is the mental institution of the universe.” Goethe'

est cum ius nostrum ignoramus - It is ignorance of the law when we do not know our own rights ...

Yup The same guy as the last time

"Original thought requires that you first accept that most opinions are based on ignorance."
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