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Diogenes
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« on: August 26, 2009, 03:16:10 AM »

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/aug/24/climate-camp-canada-oil-tar-sands
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"When I tell the truth, it is not for the sake of convincing those who do not know it, but for the sake of defending those that do."
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“We do not have to visit a madhouse to find disordered minds; our planet is the mental institution of the universe.” Goethe'

est cum ius nostrum ignoramus - It is ignorance of the law when we do not know our own rights ...

Yup The same guy as the last time

"Original thought requires that you first accept that most opinions are based on ignorance."
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« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2009, 12:35:55 PM »

Wow. It's amazing, to me, that Canada and Alberta are not capable to helping their own people and our own people must go to other countries to plead for their lives. Disgusting.

Mostly I'm proud to be Canadian, but articles like these make me feel embarrassment.

Do some research on Parkesburg, PA where the Dupont Teflon factory is situated where cattle were throwing up blood and the towns cancer rates were above average.

There is a mentality around the world that follows the idea of "Don't bite the hand that feeds you," but should be still refrain from biting when that hand is feeding you poisen?
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« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2009, 12:48:11 PM »

hmmmmmmmmmmm I noticed you didn't write your take on the subject Dio....
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« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2009, 06:13:54 PM »



Quite!
will now that I see a response.

 K my take and it
 Covers a broad collect of thought usually met wit  total lack of understanding  except by readers of a similar mindset.

 What the writer stated has my support.
There is a corporate class that fouls the commons in the obsession with profit. And my research tells me the corporate body has no or little soul.
 
 Stuff I believe as gospel.
 
As good as any a description of the ruling class and corporate hierarchy

“The main mark of modern governments is that we do not know who governs, de facto any more than de jure. We see the politician and not his backer; still less the backer of the backer; or, what is more important of all, the banker of the backer. Throned above all, in a manner without parallel in all the past, is the veiled prophet of finance, swaying all men living by a sort of magic” - G. K. Chesterton


"Study without reflection is a waste of time; reflection without study is dangerous."
      -- Confucius

One way of looking at things, for sure. How about “reflection without study is fruitless.”?
Law is based on customs and the customs became law but sanctioned by a ruling class and not the likes of you and I


 The old mantra
“Know who you are!” is very much at play here.
 “Who are You?”
According to law… ok sorry about that back on track here
 The Corporate body was given life by those who exploit it.
 And they have no concern for the commons

 Ref.>  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enclosure

  Re: the Commons
http://10000birds.com/the-enclosure-movement.htm
The law locks up the man or woman
Who steals the goose from off the common
But leaves the greater villain loose
Who steals the common from off the goose.
The law demands that we atone
When we take things we do not own
But leaves the lords and ladies fine
Who take things that are yours and mine.
The poor and wretched don’t escape
If they conspire the law to break;
This must be so but they endure
Those who conspire to make the law.
The law locks up the man or woman
Who steals the goose from off the common
And geese will still a common lack
Till they go and steal it back.
This wonderful old poem, author unknown, is employed by Duke University Professor of Law, James Boyle to introduce his cogent analysis of The Second Enclosure Movement and the Construction of the Public Domain. Boyle’s focus is on intellectual property rights and the “intangible commons”, but his powerful piece discusses some overlapping or analogous concerns regarding the physical commons. This passionate ballad serves brilliantly as prologue because it rails against the inequities of one of the great privatization schemes in Western history – the English enclosure movement.
Enclosure, summarized ever so briefly, describes the process through which farmland shared in common for communal grazing and agriculture or marginal land such as fens and moors were fenced off for private use, typically pasturage for wool production. The enclosure movement dramatically altered the English way of life, ushering in enormous economic and social upheavals that had a profound influence on modern society. Proponents and opponents of enclosure may argue vehemently about whether the changes wrought by enclosure were, in the long run, positive or negative. One’s position on this matter will offer clear insight into where he or she falls on the privatization of public lands today.

~Fini~

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"When I tell the truth, it is not for the sake of convincing those who do not know it, but for the sake of defending those that do."
William Blake
 
“We do not have to visit a madhouse to find disordered minds; our planet is the mental institution of the universe.” Goethe'

est cum ius nostrum ignoramus - It is ignorance of the law when we do not know our own rights ...

Yup The same guy as the last time

"Original thought requires that you first accept that most opinions are based on ignorance."
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« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2009, 07:01:33 PM »

I would say that I agree (while the thought had never crossed my mind) that the world went wrong when people decided that they owned land. And then water rights. And then mineral rights.  Well, it went wrong in ways before this, but these were foul thoughts as well.

But that aside, I would go as far as to say that what corporations have responsibility to the individuals they hurt directly as well as the mass populations they hurt indirectly. The water contamination problem isn't an isolated danger, even in this specific case. Read grinning planet's take on the topic and their gathered data:
http://www.grinningplanet.com/2005/07-26/water-pollution-facts-article.htm
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The majority of the planet's liquid freshwater is stored in underground aquifers. It's important to remember that groundwater pollution is very difficult to treat, and it doesn't just "flush out" on its own. Water that enters an aquifer remains there for an average of 1,400 years!

Apply this to the fact that we are on top of Canada's largest freshwater aquifer and you realize that there is a global responsibilty to stop this contamination from happening. It's sad that most choose to ignore these facts because they feel fine and feel that they are in no immediate danger, but cancer rates are soaring, fewer cases are linked to genetics and stranger case-studies pop up all the time.

Here's another link. I can't write anymore because the block for writing in only let's me look at the letters as I'm typing and won't stay scrolled to the bottom and it's making me ill. lol
http://oilsandstruth.org/tar-sands-industry-poised-pollute-canada039s-largest-freshwater-aquifer


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« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2009, 10:08:48 PM »

 I have take to doing my entries in Word the best way for us to get what we seek is to form into forces to be reconed with
 BTW
 if you are in Edmochuck Look up Kenneth Brown over at Grant Mcquen He know me through his older brothers and father
  Ken teaches Theatre there
 
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"When I tell the truth, it is not for the sake of convincing those who do not know it, but for the sake of defending those that do."
William Blake
 
“We do not have to visit a madhouse to find disordered minds; our planet is the mental institution of the universe.” Goethe'

est cum ius nostrum ignoramus - It is ignorance of the law when we do not know our own rights ...

Yup The same guy as the last time

"Original thought requires that you first accept that most opinions are based on ignorance."
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« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2010, 08:58:47 PM »

Mostly I'm proud to be Canadian, but articles like these make me feel embarrassment.

Do some research on Parkesburg, PA where the Dupont Teflon factory is situated where cattle were throwing up blood and the towns cancer rates were above average.
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